In today’s episode, Pilar shares some of what she’s learned from the first three interviews for this show, and how she’s getting on with episode 300 of the 21st Century Work Life podcast. Plus ,she’s got a book recommendation for you.
I’m pausing the interviews, but will be recording more in June. There are two reasons: one, I simply can’t find the time. Podcasting involves lots of screen time, and I’m reducing that as much as possible. Also, I have a few projects on the go, including the 300th episode of my main show. And I need to get ahead on 21st Century so that I’m set for the summer. I’m doing most of that myself now…
The second reason I’m pausing the interviews is a bit more embarrassing. I haven’t found the strength to reach out to those podcasters I’d like to invite on the show, but who are not my friends or peers. How embarrassing is that?! But you know what, we’re all human and certainly not perfect.
But I think I’ll have enough adventures of my own for at least another three episodes, so I’ll hope you’ll stay with me until then. And it’s also an opportunity for you to get in touch with your questions and even, hey, why not, if you’re in podcasting, maybe you can come on the show as a guest. Just drop me a quick note.
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First I’d like to thank all three guests,
Craig Wealand, who, by the way, I recently saw in Valencia and it was wonderful to spend some time with him and his wife, and actually, my husband Kevin has also a great time with them, so that’s a bonus.
Myriam Hadnes, who I met through the facilitator community and who, every time I talk to her, she always surprises me with her courage and creativity.
And the last episode featured Bernie J Mitchell, who I’ve known for a bit longer than Craig, and who I’ve met numerous times in London. And he’s contributed to the 21st Century Work Life podcast, but talking about co-working and freelancing. And we can all be jealous of who his first guest was, I can tell you, but if you prefer to wait for the interview to find out, if you haven’t listened to the episode, cover your ears or turn down the volume for 5 seconds, have you done that? It’s Seth Godin – if you’re not in the world of entrepreneurship, or marketing, his name won’t mean much, but if you are, your jaw might have dropped. Anyway, he talks about that.
So the three conversations are very different, and so are the points of view. For example, both Myriam and Bernie interview guests and have a completely different idea of how to interact with them.
Myriam talks about how she’s learned to “bring more of herself into the space”, by contributing to the conversation with her own opinions, examples, etc. This helps the guest to have someone to bounce off of, and releases the pressure of them creating most of the episode content.
On the other hand, Bernie prefers to stay out of the conversation as much as possible, to give the guest as much space to share.
I have to say that I lean more towards Myriam’s approach and so, very deliberately, I sometimes stop myself from speaking if I think the balance is starting to shift to my side. This is as much to respect the guest as guest, as to respect the listeners, who are used to me, and so might want to get to know the guest better.
At the same time, let’s face it, for the shows I host (as opposed to co-host), I want the listeners to want to connect with me, so I want to be present in the conversation. That’s just the kind of show I want to create – as a listener, there are interview shows I listen to regardless of who is guesting because I want to hear the host in conversation.
But there are other shows where I only listen to an episode if I find the guest or topic interesting, as the host is more of a vehicle for others. Without overthinking about this, I think it’s worth knowing how you want the listeners to connect with the material.
One thing that struck me about Craig’s interview, is how he plans for spontaneity with his co-host. Have a listen to his interview in Episode 20 for more on this.
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I’m starting to record the guest contributions for the 300th episode of the 21st Century Work Life podcast. As I’m recording this episode, it’s the 23rd April and the show comes out on 5 May.
I’ve overdone it! 12 guests! I’ve recorded 3 so far. Plus Ross, the podcast polisher for that show.
I chose people I fancied talking to, from different parts of the world, some with lots of experience in remote work, some are remote work advocates, but also those who have been using the medium as part of their work; some are entrepreneurs, freelancers and some working in organisations or with a corporate background.
I came up with a set of questions that look at past and future. Then a personal one and one about the podcast- it is, after all, a celebration of it still going on.
I set up a Calendly for guests to book themselves in, and one of them even changed the date
I’m using Zencastr to record with and gave each person their individual link. This means I’ll have transcripts to work from.
And by the way, this episode has been recorded with both Zencastr and Audacity, so that I can show you what the unedited transcript looks like generated by their AI (see below). Here’s a screenshot of what both files look like. Pretty similar don’t you think?
For episode 300, I’m thinking of putting together three parts: general thoughts, personal thoughts and thoughts about the podcast. I’m also thinking of releasing all the interviews as a separate show. There are lots of free platforms now – Libsyn Studio and Buzzsprout have an option for a free show.
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Today I’d like to recommend the book Big Podcast by David Hooper, which is mainly about mindset. I’m finding it similar to Julia Cameron’s The Artist Way, which I read on Saturday mornings at the Riverside Studios Café.
In David’s words,
“This book isn’t a series of techniques, it’s a philosophy.” So my kind of book! Here’s a quote I like:
“Softening your message is disrespectful to your audience because it doesn’t allow them to hear who you really are.”
And this is so true.
I’ve had people say they feel they know me because of my show. And this doesn’t mean I share my personal life, or never censor myself, but I allow myself to have opinions and to give the shows and episodes I do an angle. And, I allow myself to stand for something. This does mean that I have got into trouble -but only once, that I know of, and I explain this in my conversation with Craig. But I think David, the author of Big Podcast is so right.
So I haven’t gone beyond lot of the book yet, but I do recommend it. I got a free copy because I’m on his mailing list and he was offering them in exchange for a review. So I’m sure that, if you’re on a tight budget, you can do the same, or you can buy it any time online.
And remember that I too have a book: Plan Your Podcast or if you prefer to be prompted by email, I have an email sequence to help you do just that. You can find the link at the end of the Resources pages.
If you want to support this show and are looking for a media host: I recommend Buzzsprout, and for web hosting, I recommend Bluehost (affiliate links).
Get in touch if you would like some coaching and advice yourself or connect on Twitter @Inpodcasting
And here’s the automatically-generated transcript by Zencastr:
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Hello and welcome to episode 23 of adventures in podcasting I’m your host pillar orti and I’m delighted to be here with you this time on my own so I had 19 solo shows then I invited 3 guests and in this episode. I will explain why I’m taking a pause from interviews. But also what I’ve learned from those interviews very briefly and then I want to share how I’m getting on with episode 300 of the twenty first century work life podcast. And I have a book recommendation for you.
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So as I said I am posing the interviews but I will be recording more in June and there are 2 reasons for this one I simply cannot find the time podcasters podcasting involves so much screen time and I’m reducing that as much as. Possible I work remotely I am a consultant about remote work in in my other stuff that I do and I just am really trying to reduce screen time. And I have a few projects on the go I’ve got quite a lot of stuff going on including the three hundredth episode of my main show and I also need to get ahead with that show so that I’m set for the summer because I really want to have a couple of episodes in the bag and. I’m doing most of the work for those shows now. So the podcast the twenty first century work life podcast I do have an editor that polishes the files. But if I want to go in and edit actually cut out bits of the. Either interviews or what’s going on episodes or if I’m doing a solo episode that I am doing that I’m also now doing the show notes and I’m ah actually all now doing all the admin because I used to have my colleague Maya who was helping me with that. But then I decided I wanted to do something a little bit different. Ah, for a transcript and to be honest, she didn’t have the time to do that. But also I didn’t have the budget so I went with an agency to get a package around it and it just hasn’t worked out. So. 1 other thing I discovered which I think I’ve mentioned on the show before or at least on my newsletter one thing I discovered was that because I wasn’t listening back to the episodes I wasn’t when they’re finally done because someone else was doing that quality control I was. Not getting the benefit of some of their absolutely wonderful conversations I was having with guests or even with my co-host. So I decided that actually doing the show notes means that I have to listen back and assimilate some of what’s being said. So. I’m like I’m enjoying that I’m really enjoying that process. So I thought well once you’re editing the files once you’re doing the show notes. There is very little else that someone can pick up and do I’m going to stop doing the transcript. It’ll be available if anyone wants it because I haven’t had any feedback on it.
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So I’ve done not many, but maybe 6 episodes no one has said oh how great you’ve got that no one has said anything. so so I’ve decided that that is that for that now.
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The second reason that I’m posting the interviews is a bit more embarrassing and it’s that I have a list of guests I want to bring on the show but I haven’t found the strength to reach out to those but podcasters because. Most of them are not my friends or peers they are in other industries some of them I have interacted with but not very much and I’m just a little bit shy. Can you believe so on the one hand I’m celebrating a three hundredth episode of a show where. At least well half of those episodes have a guest and on the other hand I’m too shy to go on. Do you want to be on my show I think it’s mainly because the show this show is quite new. It hasn’t got a huge audience. It’s got a growing audience. Thank you everyone who’s listening. But still some of these people I don’t know they’ve been around for so long. Um, so I’m going to get over that I do want to I want to talk to them. Also it’s not just oh I want to have interview episodes. It’s I really want to talk with them about podcasting which is why I’m doing this show. I’ve just got to get over myself, but it will come and you know what we’re all human and certainly we’re not perfect. But I think I have enough adventures of my own for at least another 2 or 3 episodes and then. I’ll come in to bring some guests so that you get different perspectives as well because something I’ve noticed is that well of course everyone does stuff differently. But even with just these first 3 guests I’ve gone. Wow there is just so much that I want to grab for myself. And so much that I want to offer you the listeners so I will get there. Um, however I hope you’ll stay with me till then and also while I’m doing that while I’m getting over myself and getting other stuff done and getting these solo shows done. It’s an opportunity for you to get in touch with your questions if you have any, especially if you’re a beginner and if you are podcasting already and have some adventures of your own. Let me know because I would love you I would love to have you on the show I love having listeners of the show on the show. And this has happened with all my other shows so just drop me a line. You can find the contact form over at adventures in podcasting dot com. But for now.
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You here. So let’s kick off the show properly.
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So looking back at the first 3 episode I really want to thank all 3 guests Craig Wheeland who by the way I recently met with him in Valencia and it was wonderful to spend some time with him and his wife. Um. Craig and I co-hosted so we’ve known and and we’re friends so we’ve we’ve known each other for a while but we met through podcasting which is so great and so great and actually my husband Kevin has also has a great time with Craig and his wife so that’s real bonus. And Miriam Hadnas who I met through the facilitator community but also through podcasting and every time I talk to her she always surprises me with something new. She makes me look at things differently. She challenges me and I just love her courage and creativity. So if you haven’t listened to that interview. I encourage to listen to that too and the third episode was with Bernie J Mitchell who I’ve known I think for a bit longer than great. But I also met him through podcasting and he’s a friend and I met him numerous times in London for a walk at a meetup and actually he’s like 2 contributed. To the twenty first century work life podcast a couple of times. Um, but mainly about co-working and freelancing. So and if you haven’t listened to Bernie’s episode yet. We can all be jealous of who his first guest was for his very first show. I’m going to tell you. But if you prefer to wait for the interview to find out if you haven’t listened to the episode yet then cover your ears or turn down the volume for 5 seconds because I’m going to tell you have you done that. Now if you’re not in the world of entrepreneurship or marketing his name won’t mean much. But if you are he interviewed Seth Godin now your job might have dropped if you again if you read about entrepreneurship or marketing. Um, so anyway he talks about that. in in the episode so it’s the one released like two weeks ago have a listen to that now. The 3 conversations are very different of course and and so are the points of view and I had an idea of what I wanted to focus on with each guest but actually they surprised me. Love so both Miriam and Bernie have guests on their show and while Bernie’s got a few shows and he’s had some other shows but we we talked about interviewing and they have a completely different idea of how to interact with the guests on the show.
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So for example, Miriam talks about how she’s learned to and in her words bring more of herself into the space by contributing to the conversation with her own opinions, examples, etc and she does this and it’s something she’s learned that she through podcasting she realized it she learned it. And this helps the guest to have someone to bounce off of and it releases the pressure of them to create most of the episode content because we know that one of the great things about bringing guests onto a show is that they can create most of the content I mean we have to do some prep and we we have to work still hard. But they come up with the content on the other hand Bernie prefers to stay out of the conversation as much as possible. So Miriam has learned to be there and contribute more Bernie says. no no I give them the guest as much space to share as I can and that means staying out. Um. And I have to say that I lean more towards Miriam’s approach and so very deliberately because that’s my tendency I now have learned to stop speaking myself because I always have an opinion I always have something to say and sometimes I do feel. Okay. I’ll I won’t say that because if not the balance starts to shift towards me and I think that’s when it’s dangerous. So this is as much to respect the guest as a guest but also to respect the listeners because you or in another show other kind of listeners will be used to me and so. You might want to get to know the guest better. Yeah, like yeah pila we know what you think about that I don’t want that conversation to be in the head of a listener. So. What’s interesting is that of course both Bernie and Miriam do both actually and they do both very well but it’s just that they’re focusing on 1 or the other. Um. And then at the same time that for the shows I host so as opposed to the co-hosts I want the listeners to want to connect with me so I want to also be present in the conversation. So that’s why I lean a little bit more towards Miriam’s side and. That’s just the kind of show I want to create it’s it’s not good or bad as a listener. For example, there are interview shows that I listen to regardless of who is guesting because what I want to hear is the host in the conversation and one of my favorite podcasters is Joanna Penn and I listen to everything it doesn’t matter. Who the guest is what the topic is I’ll just listen to her and the only reason I might have stopped listening to some shows some of her episodes was maybe the audio was annoying me from the guest or something but I always want to listen to her so that’s why I listen to whereas there’s other shows where.
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I only listen to an episode if either the topic or the guest is of interest. So the host has decided to be more of a vehicle for others. So that’s absolutely fine. It’s just you will prefer one There’s there’s a whole range of listeners so without always thinking about this. I think it’s worth knowing how you want the listeners to connect with the material and then deliberately shape your host persona your interviewer persona around it. But again, this is all a matter of taste. 1 other thing I want to mention about some of the interviews is when I was talking to Craig so Craig wheelen he actually has a show in his hit episode 400 I think and he works with a co-host. He explains that every now and then they’ve brought interviewees in but it’s mainly a co-host and I was fascinated because I’ve talked to him about this a bit but I was fascinated to hear how he works with Kiss Co -host So if you’re into co-hosting or if you’re thinking of especially bringing in a co-host to your show have a listen to that. But 1 of the things that I thought was interesting is that he plans a lot. The the episode and he makes some notes then he gives the notes to his co-host and then he holds some notes back and he brings these he then makes that he makes those notes only for himself so he’s got something to surprise his co-host with. Because he says Greg says that he’s not that great at spontaneity. So he has to plan what is going to happen during the episode but he also doesn’t want the spontaneity to not be there in the show. So he’s found a way of keeping it spontaneous with his co-host. But not having so much spontaneity that he feels on show I love that and not It’s not something I’ll be doing myself but I’m going to write a book about co-hosting I’m not sure when and that for example is something that I heard that and I thought. I’ve got to talk to more people about co-hosting because I’ve got quite a bit of experience as podcaster and listener to talk about co-hosting but I want those insights and I think it’s going to be a super niche book. But it’s something that I love I’d rather co-host than. Ah, podcast on my own so preference co-host solo then interview and I just think it. It will be really useful. So there. We go there. We go. That’s an idea that’s come through these interviews.
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Right? So if you haven’t listened to those episodes I thoroughly recommend in them because their interviews are wonderful and the guests are so lovely now I would like to talk now to share with you what I’m going through as I’m preparing the three hundredth episode of the twenty first century work life. Podcast now today when I’m recording this It’s the twenty third of April and this episode comes out on the fifth of May Twenty Twenty two is for I’m posting and so far I’m recording I’ve got a plan so I just thought I’d share this with you one to get rid of my chest. Although I’m reading a book that says a podcast is not therapy this went half and half but also it might help you so first of all I have to say I’ve overdone it I’ve invited 12 guests 12 guests not altogether I did think of that. Because in episodes um, recording for episode 298 the guest Laurel who I love I love talking to her laurel far. She said oh you gonna oh you’re gonna hit 300 why don’t you do a party and I thought well yeah I could do that I could also invite. As many people as they want onto a recording and we can record and then I thought that’s going to be difficult because then to get some material I don’t know it I find it I’ve done a few live um, live roundtables and. Whether they’re live or not I’ve done some roundtables and I do find it difficult to edit them. So I thought you know I’m going to make this easy for myself and then I started to think of who I wanted to be in the show and I’ve ended up with 12 so I’ve recorded 3 so far I’ve got the rest. And then so I’ve recorded 3 but I also have a recording from Ross my ah producer by polisher for that show. The podcast engineer. Ah so yeah because I’ve done both I’ve invited people to talk with me and I’ve also invited them to answer some questions by recording. And I’ve chosen the people that actually I fancyd talking to as always especially on that show I’ve come to the point that I just want to be comfortable, um, refer to what I was talking about in the beginning of the episode. So. Also I wanted to them to be from different parts of the world. So I don’t have too many different parts of the world to be honest, but I do have um I do have Germany Australia U K Spain us I think that’s it our Netherlands? Yeah, yeah, yeah, so.
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I’ve got a bit not and a lot. But anyway, um, and some have lots of experience with working online because twenty first century work life is all about working online now used to be about broader themes and that will be part of what I tell the listeners in this episode 300 so some have experienced with online work. Some. Only have the experience that they gain during the pandemic. Ah there’s remote work advocates. But also there’s people who just happen to work online so they’re not all like yeah remote work is the best way to do it like me summer entrepreneurs and freelances. Some working organizations or have a corporate background so I’m trying to get a little bit of a mix of perspectives but let’s face it because there there still is still quite pretty limited and I have maya who’s been my co-host for the last hundred episodes. Because I decided to focus the so I did a milestone episode for episode 101 for 200 so this is really celebrating the last 100 episodes mainly so I’ve got on as guest Maya who’s been my co-host for for that for. Every other episode I’ve got as I said Ross the engineer I’ve got Bree who hosted a whole season on loneliness in remote teams. So I thought be interesting to have her because also she hadn’t done any podcasting when she did that so I want to talk to her about that I’ve got Tim who. I speak to a lot and he’s been in a few shows and actually he was the one who came up with that series I’ve just told you about and he was the only stepping co-host that I’ve had then my friend Teresa. Who I speak to a lot and we’ve recorded a lot together. Sometimes we’ve even recorded and I haven’t released it for whatever reason I’ve then got anish who has been I think is the only guest that has been on the three shows that I call that I where I interview. So he’s been in twenty first century work live. He’s been in management cafe where actually I don’t interview and he’s been in facilitation stories so that’ll be interesting and then I’ve got simon and piar who have who worked with me last year so and more I’ve also got some of I’m not going to tell you about all of them so you can see that I’ve tried to mix and match also people that have a different relationship with the podcast because this is about the podcast not just remote work and um, the world of work or my company. So how I’ve worked with this I came up with a set of questions that look.
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At the past. So what’s changed in the last three years again when I’ve released the last one hundred episodes and the future and then I have a personal question so how has have they changed how they work and then I’ve got one about the podcast which is about what would you like to listen to in a podcast. Ah, just this one. So I thought it’d be interesting to have a question about the podcast because celebration is about the podcast and then if you want to get technical and practical about it. So how I normally work I have a calendar that people can book themselves into through. Just to be scheduled once I think well that’s how I used to be called I can’t remember what it’s called now and that’s my normal calendar but I thought I’d make life easy for myself and set up a callly one so that I could look at it separately from everything else. So I set up a callandly. Ah. Ah, calendar and send the link to guests and so they’ve booked themselves in and also through that one of them has already changed the date so he could make Tuesday and now he can’t so he’s just gone in and changed the date without having to go backwards and forwards with me. So love that. If. You’re new to podcasting and you are going to be working with guests. You need to get something like that. And in fact, if you have meetings online or even in person. Please if you have them regularly just get one of those things um mini rant here I’m amazed at the number of people who. Have asked to meet with me online and haven’t been able to provide with something that’s really easy for us to not just find availability instead of how you free that day. No yes, no, but also time zones because people who work online usually usually work with people across time zones and it’s just. Much much better to let the system do the conversion am using Zencaster to record and I’ve given them each their individual episode link I have tried for some other stuff to use the same episode but I think it gave me problems. Um, so yeah and Zencastr it has given me a few problems. But I think I’ve been unlucky so still recommending it now instead of having 1 episode 300 I’m going to have 3 parts and some of this comes actually from my conversation with Miriam. Who explained that when she’s gone over the hour into like a 2 hour conversation she split it and she’s doing that because she actually asked her audience and they said that even if it’s up the same conversation in 2 parts. They’d rather have that in two forty minute episodes
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Because they said that 40 minutes is like a magic number for whatever reason so that’s her audience. So I’m not trying to do the same. But I think this episode is not going to be under an hour so I don’t. I know that a lot of listeners of my show are are a be like wo an hour is too long but I’m not going to give them less just for arbitrary time stuff. Ah, but this is going to be really long. So I just want I want the listeners to. Just to be able to look at it and go okay well I can listen to 1 part today another one on a couple of days and remember my show is fortnightly so every other week so they’ll have two weeks to listen to 3 episodes of about 50 minutes or 40 so anyway, I’m doing that. And this 3 episodes I think I’m going to do it. The first one is on general thoughts. So about the status of remote work then personal thoughts. So how they’ve changed the way which they work and then thoughts on the podcast which will probably feature have me heavily and then that question that I was talking about before. Um, also because I’ve already recorded well I’ve already got stuff from 4 guests and everything is so interesting but none of the pieces are gonna be less than sixteen seventeen minutes so what I’m thinking of doing is releasing a new podcast with that. But the time constricted and by podcast I mean a show with an irss feed that you can subscribe to and the reason I’m doing that is because I one I think they’re interesting. So why keep them in my computer when I can release them and other people can enjoy them I think that’s that’s the main reason. I don’t want to release them on a twenty first century work life podcast because I think it’s going to be very repetitive and I think these conversations because of the way they’ve been structured are very much of now or the you know the next couple of months I don’t think they’re necessarily evergreen. Of course it’s evergreen because it’s someone’s thoughts about what’s going to happen. But just the way in which we’ve talked about them. It’s very much for this episode now. So there’s a number of free options out there if you want to start to show of course this anchor with is which is part of Spotify. But. That’s not what I want to try out I want to try out liyn studio so I do have some shows hosted on lipsyn but libyn studio is separate and it’s been set up for new podcasters and it’s free I want to try that out. Another alternative is buzz pro where which I’ve tried before and works really nicely.
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You have a you get a podcast but I think after ninety days the files disappear so that could work for this one and then I don’t even know whether to say this here but acast. Ah, they also have a free option and I know this because they’ve been emailing me trying like they will have every other podcaster. Trying to get me out of my current host with one of my shows. So don’t like that very much but that means I do know that they have a free version. so yeah so I don’t know listeners I don’t know what you think I don’t know what you have done to celebrate a milestone I think. 10 episodes is a great milestone to celebrate twenty s also then fifty then a hundred um but you could do 75 why not? So I’d love to hear your views on this so you again adventures in http://podcasting.com there’s a contact from there. So. I think that’s all I’m going to say for now I think next episode when I will have I think I will have maybe even released well I’ve definitely will have put together the show and this I’m I’ve asked Ross not to be involved at all. Because it could well be that I’m working on this until the day before it’s being released because this is mammoth it involves scripting all the segues I need to decide what I want to say I have a very good idea and I think there’s gonna be a lot of. Chop well is a lot of chopping what I what I am doing though one of the reasons that I am using Zencaster for definitely is that it creates a transcript. So that means when I’m putting the episode together I can actually work from the transcript. So for example, what I’ve done is I’ve asked. Everyone to tell me at the beginning of the interview how they want me to introduce themselves and I haven’t made any notes. It’s just all there in the recording and then with the transcript I can just lift it and put it in the script. Another thing I’m doing which I will well hopefully I remember I’ll make a note to let you know in the next episode is today. I am recording with audacity which is great recording software and 1 I use all the time for solo stuff and I’m also recording with zen caster on my own to get the transcript to see how accurate it is to my voice. When I’m calm because when I’m with guests I speed up I talk really fast. Ah whereas here I’m being just a little bit more deliberate a bit more conscious of my diction and stuff so it’ll be very interesting to see in a good on a good day at a good moment.
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How does this program react to my accent and to my pace so I’ll let you know I might stick the transcript in as in fact let me do that I’m going to stick the transcript in as it is through so that everyone can see how well Zencastr transcribes my voice and then you can. You can choose and then I can let zencast know hey anyway you see this is great about podcasting I hadn’t thought of this before talking to you right? Let me wrap up the episode by recommending a book to you as I said at beginning and this book is called big podcast and it’s by David Hooper and the focus of the book and I’m going to give you David’s words he says this book isn’t a series of techniques. It’s a philosophy so it’s definitely my kind of book and this doesn’t mean that you’re not going to get anything practical from it. It just means that it’s coming to it. Well. Very cleverly from an evergreen point of view. So this will be there forever. No matter how much the tech changes no matter whether you’re thinking video audio. It’s wonderful. And in fact, even if you’re looking at other types of content even blogging. It’s probably good from that point of view. So I’m only like. 14% through and I am enjoying it and again he really comes to it from ah this is the mindset we need to adopt rather than this is what you have to do and it reminds me in a way in a way to Julia Cameron’s the artist’s way. Which I’m actually reading now on Saturday mornings at the riverside cafe now that book is about combating writers well artists block. So sometimes I’m a bit like this doesn’t really speak to me but actually it’s a nice if you are if you do consider yourself an artist in any way whether you’re podcasting or anything else. Actually the artist way. It’s really refreshing. So I’m reading that and this kind of reminds me a little bit of that. So anyway, here’s a quote I like it says softening your message is disrespectful to your audience. Because it doesn’t allow them to hear who you really are so this is talking about us as podcasters how we’re coming across having opinions and being bold I’ll read it again. Softening your message is disrespectful to your audience because it doesn’t allow them to hear who you really are this is really important and I think I must have talked about it before in um, in an episode and definitely um is something I think about a lot.
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How much of ourselves. Do we bring to the microphone. Ah I’ve had people say that they feel they know me because of my show and I’m not the only podcaster saying this this doesn’t mean that I share my personal life with you and. Even if you’ve only been listening to this show. You probably start to feel like you know me, you probably know how I view work life. How I view live even today I’ve shared quite a lot of how I approach podcasting and that says a lot about me, you probably start to think about what my values are etc. So. I try not to censor myself but I allow myself um to have opinions and to give the shows and the episodes I do an angle so I allow myself to stand for something and in in all the shows. So I have got into trouble but only once and it was around a very contentious issue and I just let my god slip and well something did happen as ah as a consequence and you can listen to my conversation with Craig about this or maybe you can read the show notes I think I summarized it there. But still I just think that David who is the author of big podcast is so right we’ve got to stand for something we don’t have to be controversial. We don’t have to be opinionated with a big o and we don’t have to show our opinions down our listeners’ throats listeners is. Every time we release an episode but I think it’s important to know what? Ah why am I here? Why am I behind this microphone. So as I said I haven’t gone beyond 14 % of the book yet. But I recommend it. I got a free copy because I’m on David’s mailing list. So I recommend you sign up to that too. It’s very useful and he was offering the book in exchange for a review through our review platform. So if you’re on a tight budget. You can do the same if you’re on his list or maybe you and drop him a line tell him you heard about it here. Or you can buy it online so the book is called big podcast and the author is David Hooper and I’m going to plug my own little book as well because I also have a book called plan your podcast. It is. It is much more of a practical thing I do say some stuff like this but it’s much softer. So. It’s a very different kind of book. But you can find out all about it on my website adventures in podcasting dot com and there. Also if you prefer to be prompted by email and just get an email every day with stuff that will help you plan your show then you can do that as well. I’ve got an email sequence to help you with that.
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And with that I’m going to do what all good podcasters do which is tell you about how you can stay in touch with me I do have a newsletter that comes up the week that comes out the week when this podcast doesn’t come out so every other week and it’s usually it’s. Ah, bit stuff like this It’s nice and short some personal stuff some podcasting stuff so you can sign you can sign to that I think I think I need to start wrapping up. You can sign up to that on http://adventuresimportcasting.com and of course there you can find out. Everything that you need to know about me and my little business.
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So thank you Very very much for listening I Know there’s loads loads of podcasts out there about all sorts of stuff. You can listen to. So.
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Have some wonderful adventures in podcasting.
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